Avenged Sevenfold's M. Shadows Blames Pop Production for the "Downfall" of Rock and Metal

"Sampled drums and the 'loudness war' have been the largest contributors"

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BY Megan LaPierrePublished Jul 14, 2022

The only natural segue from the age-old debate about whether rock music is alive is to target pop as the culprit for its ruin — whether that's pre- or post-mortem.  

Now weighing in, we have a self-proclaimed "hot take" from Avenged Sevenfold vocalist M. Shadows, who thinks pop production is responsible for the "downfall" of the rock and metal genres.

"Hot take: Sampled drums and the 'loudness war' have been the largest contributors to the downfall of rock and metal," he wrote on Twitter yesterday (July 13). His kingdom for some live drums and maybe also some silence!

"The listener does not need to know exactly what that is to subconciously [sic] feel it," he explained, presumably about this apparent contest of who can bang pots and pans at the highest decibel.

Shadows added: "Rock should not have 'pop' production," with scare quotes around the shorthand for popular music, as if to call the whole practice of genre designation into question (or to just be derogatory).

When asked by a fan for examples of rock and/or metal bands the musician thinks use the kind of pop production he's referring to, he elaborated: "If the drums have been replaced w [sic] samples and you cant [sic] hear the room... and the levels on the master have been pushed to squeeze out all dynamics... those records are fucked... and it's most of them. It somehow became the standard."

See Shadows's tweets below.
 

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