Lucy Dacus on boygenius: "We Were All in Love. That Song Is Real"

"We were comfortable and trusting each other, and we were having fun. I like that we were able to show people that."

BY Megan LaPierrePublished May 13, 2025

Lucy Dacus recently returned to Toronto — thankfully not concussed this time — for a two-night stand at Massey Hall behind her new solo record Forever Is a Feeling. While she was in town, she stopped by CBC for an interview on Q with Tom Power, which inevitably brought with it some reflection on the whole massive moment she, Julien Baker and Phoebe Bridgers had with boygenius in 2023.

"Occasionally I'll see something and I'm like, 'Why are our tits out? We're making out, this is crazy — is she straddling me? This is really wild,'" Dacus reflected of her onstage antics with her bandmates that now live forever on the internet. "That was just par for the course; that was just the atmosphere. Like, imagine a phase of your life where you were just going to parties and making out with your friends a bunch."

While she is now officially dating Baker, the artist continued, "One of the things I don't like about love is how people section it out, and like, certain behaviour is allocated to certain relationships, or certain amounts of intensity are supposed to be reserved for whatever. We were all in love. That song is real. And we were comfortable and trusting each other, and we were having fun. I like that we were able to show people that."

Dacus went on to tell Power that, before the release of the record, the band had decided on the scope of the project: one year. "I think that we all really understand our intentions with it — and for each other, because if we started to feel that this was our main thing that we always had to do… I don't know, it feels more breakable or something," she explained. "Or like, the pace that we took for a whole year was unsustainable. So if we had been like, 'Oh, this has to happen for the rest of our lives,' we wouldn't have done all that stuff."

Ever the pillar of aspirational groundedness, the singer-songwriter revealed that there were plenty of people who encouraged the boys to keep going and take more opportunities that could make them a lot of money. "People gotta get in touch with when they have enough. And also, if your goals are just like, exponential growth, that also feels like internalized deep capitalism," said Dacus. "None of us are doing this because we want to make and sell something. We're doing it because the music is important, and that's just what life is about."

Watch the full interview below.

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